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12 January 2013 @ 11:08 am
"It can't happen here."  
The Second Amendment is Obsolete, some say.  The idea that the United States could ever turn tyrannical is pure paranoia, some say.

Well, let's look at that.

Rounding up people and sending them to concentration camps (whether called "reservations" or "relocation centers"). Check. (Treatment of Native Americans.  Japanese-American "Relocation Centers" during World War II).

Illegal medical experiments involving infecting people with diseases, not treating them, and observing the effects done on people without their knowledge or consent. Check. (Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment--and particularly interesting how that was "explained" to the victims as they were getting free health care from the US Government.)

Arbitrary searches of American citizens' households aimed at the seizure of property without either probable cause or any kind of warrant. Check. (post-Katrina gun Confiscation)

Laws passed allowing the indefinite detention of American Citizens without due process of law. Check. (NDAA 2012)

American citizens going about their daily business being stopped and searched again without probable cause or any kind of warrant (or even the "reasonably articulable suspicion" for a "Terry Stop"). Check. (TSA, not just at Airports, but at bus terminals, rail and subway terminals, highways, even High School Proms.)

"Can't happen here?" It has and is happening here.

Tell me again how the Second Amendment is obsolete since it's not needed to defend against tyranny.

But "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

Yet, still, "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Addendum Chicago police are instructed to shoot people for obeying the law. Background:  Illinois, the last state in the Union with no provision for legal handgun carry for self defense, had its "no carry" law struck down and was given a timeframe in which to come up with some kind of carry law before the existing law went away entirely.  So, Illinois now has provision for concealed (or otherwise) carry or else have no restrictions on carry at all.  But the Chicago police Chief vowed to train his officers to shoot people obeying that law.

Addendum 2 EPA exposes people, without informed consent, to high levels of toxic chemicals to track the effects.
Myk ZagoracMyk Zagorac on January 13th, 2013 04:10 am (UTC)
You forgot one. The execution of American citizens without the slightest judicial review (Anwar al-Awlaki).
Arbatarbat on January 13th, 2013 04:19 am (UTC)
Actually, the whole reason we have the Constitution is that we think that "it CAN happen here".

Why else do we need a document that restricts the power of the government? Why do we need to institute checks and balances? Why do we need to add the Bill of Rights?

All those things exist for only one reason, - we do not trust the Government.

I wish Shapiro asked Morgan about that. "Hey, you keep saying that you respect Second Amendment. Why? If you are so sure that the government would never attack our rights, - you should think that the whole Bill of Rights has no value at all, right?"
Jim TempleJim Temple on January 13th, 2013 04:28 am (UTC)
Let's not forget
Let's not forget the poor movie guy who posted a YouTube video on Islam and had the President of the United States single him out, have him arrested on a trumped up charge and not he's sitting in prison, all so he could win an election.

I do believe this guy is still in jail. Wouldn't Pravda or Izvestia like to know?

We certainly need the 2nd Amendment when our illustrious free press is proving they're unworthy of the 1st.
David ClarkDavid Clark on January 13th, 2013 04:43 am (UTC)
Another little-known example
Google 'mormon extermination order.' It was issued by Gov. Boggs of Missouri, denoting Mormons as 'enemies to the state.' They were singled out because they became prosperous and more politically influential in Missouri. The order was not formally rescinded until 1976.

Richard VailRichard Vail on January 13th, 2013 05:18 am (UTC)
Unreasonable People
Perhaps it's time for reasonable people to begin thinking about an unreasonable response to Congress, and the Executive branch taking away our liberties...

That was the intent of the framer's on the 2nd Amendment...to keep government from tyranizing the populace. When they want to seize our means of defense from tyranny, then it's time to let them know who is the boss...

...an armed man is a citizen, and unarmed man is a slave. Do we want themm to make use slaves?
Pug-Pug McPugPug-Pug McPug on January 13th, 2013 06:09 am (UTC)
Truth To Power
This is what speaking truth to power looks like, well said.
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